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Understanding 9/11Grateful Dead Live at Greek Theatre - University of California on 1968-10-20
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- 1968-10-20 ( check for other copies)
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- Soundboard, Charlie Miller
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Set 1
Good Morning Little Schoolgirl
Turn On Your Lovelight
Dark Star ->
Saint Stephen ->
The Eleven ->
Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks) ->
Feedback
Set 2
Good Morning Little Schoolgirl
Turn On Your Lovelight
Dark Star ->
Saint Stephen ->
The Eleven ->
Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks) ->
Feedback
Set 2
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- 2008-04-03 13:36:57
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- gd1968-10-20.sbd.miller.9071.shnf
- Location
- Berkeley, CA
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- Charlie Miller
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- sound
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- 1968
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Reviewer:
DeadCoMule
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December 12, 2022
Subject: Crackling October ‘68
Subject: Crackling October ‘68
This is classic primal Dead; a shining example of the psychedelic Fall ‘68 sound. 40+ minutes worth of Pig songs sandwich a groovy Dark Star > St.
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Stephen > The Eleven.
The first standout is Phil’s bassline in Schoolgirl. He has cited Jack Casady as a major influence early on, and that heavy style is heavily apparent here. Lovelight rolls along nicely. Dark Star is immediately identifiable as a ‘68 version, with Pigpen’s descending organ line and the quiet percussion providing soft framework as the Gibsons purr along briskly at varying volumes and directions. It’s a spooky, cavernous, and vampirish Dark Star, with none of the looseness, huge shifts in tempo, or sweeping barrel roll maneuvers of many ‘69-’70 versions. One of the shortest St. Stephens in history segues into what I’d call the show’s highlight: a ferocious The Eleven. Caution is half frenzied rock & roll, half celestially tripped out feedback, the perfect cherry on top of this old school California cookout. It’s only about an hour long, but takes you on a real adventure in those half a dozen songs. MVP of the night goes to Phil Lesh!
The first standout is Phil’s bassline in Schoolgirl. He has cited Jack Casady as a major influence early on, and that heavy style is heavily apparent here. Lovelight rolls along nicely. Dark Star is immediately identifiable as a ‘68 version, with Pigpen’s descending organ line and the quiet percussion providing soft framework as the Gibsons purr along briskly at varying volumes and directions. It’s a spooky, cavernous, and vampirish Dark Star, with none of the looseness, huge shifts in tempo, or sweeping barrel roll maneuvers of many ‘69-’70 versions. One of the shortest St. Stephens in history segues into what I’d call the show’s highlight: a ferocious The Eleven. Caution is half frenzied rock & roll, half celestially tripped out feedback, the perfect cherry on top of this old school California cookout. It’s only about an hour long, but takes you on a real adventure in those half a dozen songs. MVP of the night goes to Phil Lesh!
Reviewer:
Mind Wondrin
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July 18, 2021 (edited)
Subject: πάροδος & κορυφαῖος
We don't have the previous two shows. The night before in Vegas was the first for Tom Constanten. Because he was stationed there, he didn't play ... this show, not appearing again until 11/25 in OH (we do have the next show, in Chico - in between were Mickey & the Hartbeats shows). Instead, Pigpen was back. After missing shows when his girlfriend was in critical care and due to the firing incident, he plays here with enthusiasm. This date was the "All Cal Rock Festival" - the type of booking which again gave them an occasion to play the Greek. Usually they played down the hill on campus, at the Harmon Gym or Pauley Ballroom (which they next played at UC, for summer solstice '70). It would be 13yrs until an opportunity to play the Greek again (also in the afternoon). Given the set length, the Dead were probably not the headliners. Short, but what's here is the best of fall '68.
Good Morning Schoolgirl is good, and mostly owned by Phil, though he goes on independent study in places. The beginning is clipped - the first 7secs on the official release are from 8/24. Lovelight is similar to any from the period, but Dark Star is a structured delight (again missing the very beginning - the first 9secs on the OFF are from 8/24). Saint Stephen is extraordinary into The Eleven. They had been woodshedding these as they worked to add TC, and now they are red. Caution is one of the tightest and most entertaining versions.
Overall = 5 stars
Highlights:
Dark Star through Caution are aces
SOURCES: The miller_9071 is the SBD upgrade; essentially the same on 30 Trips (you may want to swap their channels for accuracy). Dark Star is on Definitive Live Story.
Thanx> brewster, for pic
Subject: πάροδος & κορυφαῖος
We don't have the previous two shows. The night before in Vegas was the first for Tom Constanten. Because he was stationed there, he didn't play ... this show, not appearing again until 11/25 in OH (we do have the next show, in Chico - in between were Mickey & the Hartbeats shows). Instead, Pigpen was back. After missing shows when his girlfriend was in critical care and due to the firing incident, he plays here with enthusiasm. This date was the "All Cal Rock Festival" - the type of booking which again gave them an occasion to play the Greek. Usually they played down the hill on campus, at the Harmon Gym or Pauley Ballroom (which they next played at UC, for summer solstice '70). It would be 13yrs until an opportunity to play the Greek again (also in the afternoon). Given the set length, the Dead were probably not the headliners. Short, but what's here is the best of fall '68.
Good Morning Schoolgirl is good, and mostly owned by Phil, though he goes on independent study in places. The beginning is clipped - the first 7secs on the official release are from 8/24. Lovelight is similar to any from the period, but Dark Star is a structured delight (again missing the very beginning - the first 9secs on the OFF are from 8/24). Saint Stephen is extraordinary into The Eleven. They had been woodshedding these as they worked to add TC, and now they are red. Caution is one of the tightest and most entertaining versions.
Overall = 5 stars
Highlights:
Dark Star through Caution are aces
SOURCES: The miller_9071 is the SBD upgrade; essentially the same on 30 Trips (you may want to swap their channels for accuracy). Dark Star is on Definitive Live Story.
Thanx> brewster, for pic
Reviewer:
brewster
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October 21, 2019
Subject: article about the concert with photo
Subject: article about the concert with photo
Reviewer:
mcgrupp216
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April 1, 2019
Subject: 3rd Trip Around the Sun
Subject: 3rd Trip Around the Sun
Check out doug_the_dude, here. He's right. Pointless or hard to rate these '68 shows, "except," as he puts it, "I guess, in relation to each other...."
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He's also right about this show's "guts." Absolute fire for this Eleven->Caution finale. This show's 10.5 minute Dark Star is featured on the 30 trips definitive live story. It's only the 23rd version played of a total of 219. 29 in '68, behind - of course - '69 and '72, played respectively 65- and 31-times.
Reviewer:
tanman82
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November 16, 2015
Subject: pigpen organ about 1.5 min -2 min mark in caution
Subject: pigpen organ about 1.5 min -2 min mark in caution
Pigpen and Phil trade in caution. pigpen could play which adds to the 'mystery' of his lack of play and being in the mix during 70 &71 until europe
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72 where he plays and is in the mix in nearly all songs. note he plays and is in the mix for (from) the 16 tracks from Fillmore east in 4.71 and lesser extant from 2/71 multri-track mix. But if you listen to the 2 track from 71 he is mostly absent with a few exception, truckin, other one but by 71 the tapes mixes are starenge. listen to closing of fillmore west the cryptical- other one. he's absent in the mix on cryptical which he ALWAYS played on even when his organ duties returned with tc's departure at the end of 1/70 but in the 7/71 recording he's not in the mix on cryptical and then is briefly heard on the open into 'The Other one' but is quickly reduced to silence , near silence. I think this was a conscious decision to mix him out (until the euorpe 72, 2 tracks he's in the mix and the multitracks he's there. I have to listen to 'skull/roses/skullf#ck to see how thats mixed as I havent listened to that in 30 yrs plus
Reviewer:
N Hoey
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June 3, 2013
Subject: ST, Stephan > The Eleven
Subject: ST, Stephan > The Eleven
Seems like the trackers of these usually get it wrong. The Eleven actually commences about 2:30 after the track marker. Those first two and a half minutes
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are the end of St. Stephan in 4/4.
Reviewer:
Fixur
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June 3, 2013
Subject: forget the stars
Subject: forget the stars
Nobody wants to mention the guests playing with the Dead on Lovelight, Caution and elsewhere? I don't think that's Bobby trying to figure out the chords
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to Lovelight. A previous poster who attended this show notes the presence of guests onstage. A photograph of the band onstage does not show Mickey, so maybe they were playing Dark Star and Mickey was out-of-frame playing the scratcher while Pigpen contributes his signature riff on organ and does vocal harmonies. Canned Heat and Mad River did not have keyboardists. Pigpen had recently gotten out of the hospital, so maybe a guest sat in on the Hammond for most of the rest of the show, and another guitarist sat in during Lovelight.
So how about some research, guys, instead of all the star ratings and "best of" comments. That does not enhance my enjoyment of the recording if you don't tell me what you like about it.
So how about some research, guys, instead of all the star ratings and "best of" comments. That does not enhance my enjoyment of the recording if you don't tell me what you like about it.
Reviewer:
Darrylizer
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February 9, 2012 (edited)
Subject: Pigpen is back and on, one of the best from '68
Subject: Pigpen is back and on, one of the best from '68
Pigpen back from a several show absence, apparently his girlfriend had suffered a stroke causing him to miss some shows at the Avalon Ballroom. That and
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his position in the Grateful Dead, along with Bob Weir's was in flux. Jerry and Phil had talked about firing both of them.
Apparently the Dead didn't think this show was up to snuff, and consequently didn't play the Greek theatre for another 13 years. Personally I think it's one of the best from 68. It's stunning actually and Pigpen is ON. So's the rest of the band. There's an old saying "nothing like a recording to ruin the memory of a good gig", the opposite seems to be true too. This is a great gig.
Btw that's Pigpen on organ, TC didn't play his first gig until November 23.
Apparently the Dead didn't think this show was up to snuff, and consequently didn't play the Greek theatre for another 13 years. Personally I think it's one of the best from 68. It's stunning actually and Pigpen is ON. So's the rest of the band. There's an old saying "nothing like a recording to ruin the memory of a good gig", the opposite seems to be true too. This is a great gig.
Btw that's Pigpen on organ, TC didn't play his first gig until November 23.
Reviewer:
Dylan M
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December 31, 2011
Subject: Birth of the Dead
Subject: Birth of the Dead
This recording captures the primal-Dead, figuring out what would become their triumphant opus just a few months later.
Dark Star>Saint Stephen>The ... Eleven>Caution>Feedback
Great performance. The levels are WAY uneven in Schoolgirl. Phil is way at the top and vocals are too low. Vocals are unfortunately too low for most of this recording. Lucky for us this is more of an instrumental performance. Once Dark Star starts at least the instrument levels are corrected. These are shorter performances of each of these songs than what they would develop into very shortly. However the level of energy and musical cooperation is tight.
T.C. is high in the mix as well killing it especially in Caution.
Thanks for this! Its cool to hear these tunes in their baby forms.
Dark Star>Saint Stephen>The ... Eleven>Caution>Feedback
Great performance. The levels are WAY uneven in Schoolgirl. Phil is way at the top and vocals are too low. Vocals are unfortunately too low for most of this recording. Lucky for us this is more of an instrumental performance. Once Dark Star starts at least the instrument levels are corrected. These are shorter performances of each of these songs than what they would develop into very shortly. However the level of energy and musical cooperation is tight.
T.C. is high in the mix as well killing it especially in Caution.
Thanks for this! Its cool to hear these tunes in their baby forms.
Reviewer:
notthatdealbutthisdealgoindown
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December 31, 2011 (edited)
Subject: phil's song
Subject: phil's song
Little school girl is all about phil here. I can ask this...did they give him lead cuz otherwise he stole it? It's my favorite school girl so far but
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I haven;t been listening long enough to give it more than three stars. Could be better but best I've heard...for bass, real funky/blues
Reviewer:
njpg
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October 20, 2011
Subject: In my opinion,
Subject: In my opinion,
not quite as good a show as 10/13/68 and not as good a setlist. Still, definitely good.
Reviewer:
smokingcratersofthemind
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July 26, 2011
Subject: Unlike Anything. Just listen
Subject: Unlike Anything. Just listen
This is music that you can feel! A true experience of the harmonious, that transcends experience all together! If we being, rushing alongside the songs
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they play chronologically, we will feel the bass within us as it moves alongside the grooves in Schoolgirl. This is only a small movement- the dynamics are graceful and beauteous and alive and powerful and intrinsic! A force is at work within each song, each musician surely possessing that force. I can feel something within this music no experience can give. But to arrive at the wonderment Dark Star produces in ethereal lands transcending the stage, you too will surely notice a glimpse of this. Intrinsic power and transcendental grace! And how it moves onward throughout the Eleven and Caution, something so strong and scary that comes alive in full fluid movements! Unlike anything!... A complete amount of harmonious force and energy is conveyed here. One of their most brilliant moments in '68 (though it transcends brilliance). It goes onward in a fully achieved transcendental dance and moves in some way that I lack words to describe. Just listen
Reviewer:
clementinescaboose
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January 3, 2011
Subject: oh yes oh yes
Subject: oh yes oh yes
the transition jamming between this breakneck version of The Eleven and Caution is some of the BEST EVER - i defy anyone to control the pounding of their
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fist onto any nearby surface during this sequence...
Reviewer:
L. Rosley
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March 13, 2010
Subject: One of the best of the 1968
Subject: One of the best of the 1968
I’ve listened to almost all of the ’68 shows hear at Archive, as well as those that the Dead released. This one is as good as the February/March shows,
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and a few from August. One of the rare features it that not only is the “Live Dead” set list top notch, but the Anthem of the Sun material is also excellent. This show compares well to many ’69 shows as well.
This tape starts with an exceptional Schoolgirl, already in progress. The jamming and Pig’s vocals are fresh and exciting. In the second half, Jerry lays back and Phil has an extended solo, a real treat for Phil fans.
The jamming in Lovelight is similarly hot in spots. It doesn’t quite gel like some of the ’69 shows, but it is a good Lovelight none-the-less.
The show gets serious with Dark Star is one of best in the golden age of Dark Stars. Moody and lyrical, it flows hear and there, but is a well-crafted composition. Nothing compares to it after 1970.
Next is a Live-Dead-style St. Stephen (in which Jerry cooks) and The Eleven. St. Stephen is perfect, and the Eleven rips--as good as any in 1969. Jerry and Phil duel it out in the first part, then Jerry takes off. Then something unusual happens towards the end: Caution. In this period, The Eleven sometimes transitions into Death Don’t have no mercy. The Eleven into Caution was not common, but it works well here, an interesting transition from Live-Dead-style back into Anthem of the Sun material. The transition is completely seemless.
Pipen’s organ starts off Caution, then he begins his rap with a call-and-response. Things get decidedly more pychedelic. The Caution jam kicks in, wild, electric, exciting, but tight and musical. Just dynamite. Things calm down a bit, then revs back up to a short climax, then a transition into feedback.
Unlike the space of later years (which often signaled time for a bathroom break), this feedback is a compelling group composition that holds your attention. In the end, it transitions smoothly into the 60-cycle hum of the PA.
This show is worthy of many repeat listens.
This tape starts with an exceptional Schoolgirl, already in progress. The jamming and Pig’s vocals are fresh and exciting. In the second half, Jerry lays back and Phil has an extended solo, a real treat for Phil fans.
The jamming in Lovelight is similarly hot in spots. It doesn’t quite gel like some of the ’69 shows, but it is a good Lovelight none-the-less.
The show gets serious with Dark Star is one of best in the golden age of Dark Stars. Moody and lyrical, it flows hear and there, but is a well-crafted composition. Nothing compares to it after 1970.
Next is a Live-Dead-style St. Stephen (in which Jerry cooks) and The Eleven. St. Stephen is perfect, and the Eleven rips--as good as any in 1969. Jerry and Phil duel it out in the first part, then Jerry takes off. Then something unusual happens towards the end: Caution. In this period, The Eleven sometimes transitions into Death Don’t have no mercy. The Eleven into Caution was not common, but it works well here, an interesting transition from Live-Dead-style back into Anthem of the Sun material. The transition is completely seemless.
Pipen’s organ starts off Caution, then he begins his rap with a call-and-response. Things get decidedly more pychedelic. The Caution jam kicks in, wild, electric, exciting, but tight and musical. Just dynamite. Things calm down a bit, then revs back up to a short climax, then a transition into feedback.
Unlike the space of later years (which often signaled time for a bathroom break), this feedback is a compelling group composition that holds your attention. In the end, it transitions smoothly into the 60-cycle hum of the PA.
This show is worthy of many repeat listens.
Reviewer:
Cliff Hucker
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October 20, 2009 (edited)
Subject: Fuck the Hartbeats!
Subject: Fuck the Hartbeats!
Next to 3/30, this might be the most overrated show from '68. That said, it just might be the liveliest mixed file from this extraordinary vintage.
A ... little treasure, with perhaps the best Dark Star from 1968 next to Raspberry farm. Just listen to Phil on Schoolgirl, this is fucking unreal! (99 pts)
A ... little treasure, with perhaps the best Dark Star from 1968 next to Raspberry farm. Just listen to Phil on Schoolgirl, this is fucking unreal! (99 pts)
Reviewer:
JustAFloatingSage
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April 10, 2009
Subject: Float With The Floaters
Subject: Float With The Floaters
God ..how I love this music....
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high flow
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July 4, 2008
Subject: Hello Berkeley!!
Subject: Hello Berkeley!!
1968 and super-duper sweet.
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stellar darkstar
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May 10, 2008
Subject: phil
Subject: phil
phil will blow your speakers with this one crispy clean board
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Direwolfman
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April 5, 2008
Subject: This is could become an addition!
Subject: This is could become an addition!
This sounds wonderful. Keep it coming Charlie and archive. Thanks again.
Put your head phones on, and step on the train!The gang really takes you for ... a ride here!
Caution is awsome!
Put your head phones on, and step on the train!The gang really takes you for ... a ride here!
Caution is awsome!
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